greenrabbit
May 11 2006, 01:02 AM
My precious Quaker Parrot Beaker was having trouble laying an egg on early Friday morning, but she finally did. I noticed the next Friday afternoon that she seemed like she was still trying to push another egg out but she couldn`t do it. My mother and I took her to the vet. He examined my baby, said there was no egg and sent us home. I cuddled with her that night and I new in my heart there was an egg but my mother told me she didn`t know who to believe. Beaker ate good that Saturday morning and night. When I uncovered her cage on Sunday she was up on her perch holding on to the edge of her food bowl with her mouth. Her back end area was out. I grabbed my baby and ran into the other room. She died seconds later. I just am so heartbroken I was her Mama for 15 years and now she is gone forever. The doctor called on the phone and said a bunch of garbage that he told my mother that Beaker could have had an xray, which is a lie. Then he said well she was old. Another thing he said was well she could have died being operated on. He just made one excuse after another. The fact of the matter is he didn`t do squat, no xray, no operation, no nothing and now my baby is dead. I might could have accepted Beaker dying during the operation, but the fact of the matter is the doctor killed my Beaker. My baby died on May 7. I just feel like I didn`t help her when she needed me. I just feel like a piece of my heart has been ripped out. Night Night Beaker, Mama loves you always
Sharon AKA Lizard Lady
May 11 2006, 01:16 AM
I have never lost a bird but have lost other pets I loved do to vets ignorance . I know how you feel so helpless. Who are we suppose to trust. My thoughts and prayers are with you. and no from what I read 15 is not old for a quaker. Hang in there only time will help. Sharon AKA Lizard Ladyp
Cantab
May 11 2006, 02:46 AM
I am so sorry for your loss.

It sounds like you had a wonderful 15 years together and it will take some time to heal, so don't rush yourself, give yourself time to grieve. All the best.
Nancy and Bubba
May 11 2006, 05:42 AM
I am so sorry for your loss - my heart breaks for you and the stupidity of the vet. I had one like that and he killed by baby Molly (cat). I still have a hard time trusting them. My goodness, 15 years, I cannot even imagine how heartbroken you must be -

Please remember though that it was not your fault and she died with you and the love she felt at the end. Oh this is just so awful...
echo
May 11 2006, 07:17 AM
I'm so sorry you lost your baby.
Sar
May 11 2006, 07:48 AM
Terribly sorry, i dont think that there is anything else we can say the would make you feel better, Just think of the happy times...again very sorry
Majj
May 11 2006, 08:26 AM
My heart is Crying with you...Nothing anyone can say will ease your pain , I know because I still after more than a year have an ache in my heart for JJ ....and I hate to read in this forum of anyone going through the loss of a loved compainion...
Thinking of you and sending Hugs across the Miles...
"The Covenant"
"I'll lend you for just awhile, this precious bird of mine" He Said
For you to love while she lives, and for you to mourn when she is dead.
It may be six or seven years, or maybe twenty three.
But will you until I call her back, take care of her for me?
She will bring her joy to gladden you, and shall her stay be brief,
you will only have her lovely memories as solace for your grief.
I cannot promise she will stay, as all from earth will return,
but there are still lessons to be taught down there that I want this bird to learn,
"I've looked the whole world over for teachers true
and from the throngs that crowd lifes lanes, I have selected you".
Now will you give her all your love and not hate me when I come to take her home again?
And then I heard them softly say "Dear Lord, Thy Will Be Done."
For all the joy this bird shall bring the risk of grief we'll run.
We'll shower her with tenderness and love her while we may,
and should the angels call for her sooner then we planned,
we'll brave the bitter grief that comes and just try to understand.
May your wounds heal quickly, but never forget their love...
Kelley
May 11 2006, 08:34 AM
I am very, very sorry!
Sar
May 11 2006, 08:57 AM
QUOTE (Majj @ May 11 2006, 09:26 AM)

My heart is Crying with you...Nothing anyone can say will ease your pain , I know because I still after more than a year have an ache in my heart for JJ ....and I hate to read in this forum of anyone going through the loss of a loved compainion...
Thinking of you and sending Hugs across the Miles...
"The Covenant"
"I'll lend you for just awhile, this precious bird of mine" He Said
For you to love while she lives, and for you to mourn when she is dead.
It may be six or seven years, or maybe twenty three.
But will you until I call her back, take care of her for me?
She will bring her joy to gladden you, and shall her stay be brief,
you will only have her lovely memories as solace for your grief.
I cannot promise she will stay, as all from earth will return,
but there are still lessons to be taught down there that I want this bird to learn,
"I've looked the whole world over for teachers true
and from the throngs that crowd lifes lanes, I have selected you".
Now will you give her all your love and not hate me when I come to take her home again?
And then I heard them softly say "Dear Lord, Thy Will Be Done."
For all the joy this bird shall bring the risk of grief we'll run.
We'll shower her with tenderness and love her while we may,
and should the angels call for her sooner then we planned,
we'll brave the bitter grief that comes and just try to understand.
May your wounds heal quickly, but never forget their love...
your post was so beautiful, as hard as it may be we should look at all experiences positively....again..very very sorry for your loss
Taavi's Mom
May 11 2006, 09:36 AM
I'm so sorry about Beaker! My heart goes out to you! What a horrible experience and for a vet. to have that attitude! Please realize you did your best to do everything possible for Beaker. In my opinion the vet. should be ashamed to say the least! You tried taking her to the vet. for help and you didn't know anything else to do to help her. You were a very good "mom" to Beaker or she would not have made it to 15 years old! Oh, and your vet. is wrong 15 is not old for a well-taken care of Quaker!
I'm so sorry you must go through this pain of losing Beaker. I will be praying for you and for the pain to ease. Forgive for mentioning it at this time but should you decide you want to love another Quaker or bird, here is a list of avian vets:
http://qp-society.com/rappsupport/rapptext/vets.html?
Please keep it for future reference! Maybe you can find a GOOD avian vet near you! I'm so sorry!
Hugs,
Jan, Taavi (QP), Tory (M2) & Jesse (LSC2)
sgtcluck
May 11 2006, 09:41 AM
My heart was breaking for you as I was reading your message. If I was not here at work I would be crying. My prayers are with you.
Fexil
May 11 2006, 09:53 AM
As I read your post on your precious Beaker, my eye's are filled with tears and my heart with sorrow. There is nothing i can say to make you feel better. It there were, I Would!!!!
My thoughts and prayers are with you in your time of sorrow. PLEASE, just think of all that Beaker did to make your life So Much Better and Smile. Your were there for your Baby with all you had and that is all you could do. Beaker Knows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Always,
Dee
May 11 2006, 10:17 AM
I am so very sorry for your loss and your pain ...
Carrie~Anne
May 11 2006, 01:14 PM
Oh man, I am so very sorry to hear this. Your heart must be breaking.
There is a website where you can post bad experiences with avian vets. I think this 'vet' needs to be placed on this list:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/5484/quakers.htmAgain, you have my deepest sympathies.
peanutsdaddy
May 11 2006, 02:04 PM
I feel your pain I lost my Peanut 2 weeks ago he was 10 years old, he had a stroke. What I have been doing to cope with the pain is remembering all the fun times we had together and all of the "conversations" we had. I know it may be premature but start looking for another, I had a friend get me a 6 month old and I cant seem to put him down it has helped me greatly plus the members of this board are great.
Rick
brandylaw
May 11 2006, 02:56 PM
I am so sorry...
Sammy's Mom Robyn
May 11 2006, 03:19 PM
Wow, I am soo sorry... You did everything that you could do, and deep down, that vet will have this on his concience forever.
upliftedwings
May 11 2006, 04:04 PM
I am so very sorry , you lost your baby. I can tell you were a wonderful Mom..You can't help it the vet didn't do his job..! please don't blame your self..!!!!! Keeping you in my thoughts and prayers.
LuvMyHarley1
May 11 2006, 11:31 PM
QUOTE (Carrie~Anne @ May 11 2006, 02:14 PM)

Oh man, I am so very sorry to hear this. Your heart must be breaking.
There is a website where you can post bad experiences with avian vets. I think this 'vet' needs to be placed on this list:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/5484/quakers.htmAgain, you have my deepest sympathies.
I agree with Carrie Anne---So very sorry for your loss....
I would like to say a lot here about what the vet did not do, but I'm not, but it makes my blood boil to hear how negligent some vets/drs can be.
Please follow up on this...Beaker was probably in so much pain,Grrrrrrrrr.Hush Julie right now....
greenrabbit
May 12 2006, 12:27 AM
I just want to thank everyone for their kind words. It has made me feel a lot better and I am so glad I found a place where I can talk to others about quakers. I just felt really alone and it is so nice to hear from others.
I want to get another quaker, I just really need one. I just miss her, talking with her, cuddling with her. When I was home she basically would stay on my left shoulder. She was my little buddy.
Oh and I think everyone might think I am being silly, others might think it was kind of him, but I got a card in the mail. It was a cheap,small, generic looking card, which I know he got his receptionist to address it. Had a bunch of garbage on the front about your pet passing. In it the vet has his lousy first name. I mean he couldn`t even admit any wrong doing and say he was sorry or nothing. I can just imagine his receptionist addressing the envelope and him walking out and just scribbling his first name. I just wonder how many of these cards he sends out to other pet owners. It just made me so mad and I shouldn`t say it, but after I opened it, I called him a dirty name.
peabot
May 12 2006, 01:09 AM
I am so sorry you lost your little Beaker...you must be very sad.
I lost a cockatiel recently so I know your heartbreak. It took me a week to realise another little bird would help my sorrow and I got Barry. I still miss Nigel ( my tiel) but Barry certainly cheers me up. I hope you get a new bird soon
Sar
May 12 2006, 09:21 AM
i think that it is understandable. Why is he showing that he cares now, when it is to late?
merlinsmommy640
May 12 2006, 11:02 AM
I'm so sorry for your loss. Sounds like you two had quite a nice and loving bond. My thoughts and prayers are with you for healing.
cindylou_38
May 12 2006, 11:25 AM
I am so sorry for your loss!
StephieSue
May 14 2006, 12:46 AM
Oh I'm so so sorry for your loss. I can't say anything that will help ease your pain but I can certainly pray for you.
JudyluvZiggy
May 14 2006, 01:39 AM
I am so very sorry for your loss. I know that nothing I say can help you through this, but, I know from experience that talking to people here and watching the videos does give some comfort. Please know that our thoughts and prayers are with you throughout your time of sorrow.
NewQuakerMom
May 14 2006, 05:30 PM
I am so sorry to hear about poor Beaker

She sure was lucky to have you for a mommy all those years, taking such great care of her and loving her so much. At least she was able to pass her last moments with you, the person she loved best in the whole world. I know nothing that any of us can say will take away your pain, but just know that we are all thinking of you and praying for Beaker.
That card was just a way for the vet to make himself sleep better at night. He should have went with your intuition, because after 15 years you knew Beaker better than anyone. Vets don't know everything, but they sometimes think they do and that's when tragedies like this happen. I am so sorry that his negligence cost you your precious baby.
~BettyK~
May 14 2006, 06:16 PM
As I read you message I am crying with you. I am soooooooo sorry for your loss...I know your pain, I just lost my Lutino Cockatiel two weeks ago..although not a Quaker I loved her no less..again I am so so sorry for your loss.
4thebirds
May 16 2006, 04:59 PM

.. I TOO AM SO SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS...
Quakermom
May 17 2006, 10:41 AM
Hey sweetie I am so sorry for your loss.
I also had a loved quaker who died in my arms. Its hard but when your instinct kicks in you should have taken her to another doctor. Your right to feel that way but sometimes they pass unexpectedly. Your love for your little bird is like your child- it is your child. always remember the happy moments with your little beaker. If it may help read the poem I posted on this page called "Through my eyes'
Always know that your little one is now watching over you. Keep strong be safe and if you need a shoulder I am here .. Take care
hopefully in time beaker's legacy will live on in another quaker friend... I am sorry for your loss..
Rio
May 19 2006, 09:55 AM
Ohhh, I am so sorry to read about Beaker. Tears come to my eyes.
I too lost my little quaker, Rio, this week in a very tragic accident so I do truly understand and share your pain, the guilt and sorrow.
I've found much comfort in this site and all of the people who have reached out from around the world. We're not alone.
With deepest sympathy.
Sincerely,
April
Animal Quackers
May 20 2006, 03:40 PM
Sar,
I am so sorry to hear of your loss. I know it hurts so much to watch your fids suffer and feel so helpless to do anything to ease their pain. My prayers are with you and Beaker. Rest in peace little friend!
sinnie
Jun 23 2006, 09:00 AM
I'm so sorry to hear that. We also lost a female finch the same way several years ago. I would recommend only going to an avian vet. That's all I take my birds to and he has always done very well. Any other vet who isn't trained in taking care of birds, could easily miss something like that.
acutenewt
Jun 23 2006, 09:22 AM
I'm so sorry for your loss. When Nemo died (he was only 4) it was very hard for me. One thing that helped me was writing in a journal. I wrote down how I was feeling or a memory I had of our time together. Now I'm writing his story in the journal and it helps me to remember all the good times we had.
You are in my thoughts. We trust vets and docotrs to know what is best and when they let us down it makes it even harder to bear.
my_babybird
Jun 23 2006, 10:30 AM
I am so sorry to hear about your loss. I lost my parrotlet, Peanut, about a month ago, so I know how hard it is. The reality of your situation is similiar to what happens to many pet-owners. A lot of vets view birds as throwaway pets. It is sad, but true. I had a vet like that. I also raise box turtles, and the vet I had just didn't give a squat about the turtles when they were sick. Same with the birds I have. He said once it was foolish to treat a parakeet for an upper respiratory infection, when for the the cost of the office visit and medication, I could buy a younger, healthy new bird. I kept him only long enough to pay for the medication he grudgingly prescribed, and found a new vet clinic. They have a wonderful staff, and very knowledgeable about chelonian and avian medicine. My pets are not disosable to ME, and I am glad to have found a place where they think like me.
Cheekys mum
Aug 2 2006, 08:20 AM
I know this is late and I am in no way meaning to upset you more but Im so sorry...what an ignorant sod of a vet.
Years ago my X and I had a paint pony. We were moving onto some land we bought and we had "Princess" at a friends house and said oh you can ride her. well we were called one day and said urgently there was an accident to hurry! We arrived to our ponys eye bleeding. Apparently the child had rode her not knowing what she was doing without much supervision. WE called the vet and he came out. Her eyeball was slit and bleeding. He then took a swab and then WIPED it across the eyeball and the eye FELL OUT. Words can't say how outraged I was. He didn't know what the H**L he was doing. To boot the "friends" never even offered to pay the vet and it was their fault! She was so Beautiful Princess now marred for life. Theres nothing like an excellent vet (((HUGGS))) to you!
But the Lord said "Not one sparrow falls without His knowing it...." He has your bird in His loving hands now. Bless you...
Sincerely,
Janet
jotty2006
Aug 2 2006, 01:52 PM
OMG that stupid doc! I am so sorry for your loss..
birdbluff
Aug 12 2006, 10:45 AM
QUOTE (Nancy and Bubba @ May 11 2006, 05:42 AM)

I am so sorry for your loss - my heart breaks for you and the stupidity of the vet. I had one like that and he killed by baby Molly (cat). I still have a hard time trusting them. My goodness, 15 years, I cannot even imagine how heartbroken you must be -

Please remember though that it was not your fault and she died with you and the love she felt at the end. Oh this is just so awful...
Okay, one thing I have noticed about this forum...you people are very wise with your birds. Maybe we can turn this into a postive by telling the stories about vets and birds. I've learned more here than from any book or vet.
Nancy and bubba, why not start a thread about stories where vets went wrong. Maybe we can learn, recognize danger signs and then know when to get a second opinion from a vet.
Just an idea. thanks!
Quakerfreak
Aug 12 2006, 05:31 PM

I am sooo Sorry for ur Loss
frizz
Aug 12 2006, 07:27 PM
My aching heart. Poor Beaker. Poor you. So sad and frustrating. To many have lost dear little friends to soon.
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