Aren't they darling?!
One of them is natural colour, which makes him great for comparison.

They are at Chirping Friends in Shelby Township Michigan...in case you want to know. I cuddled with them for about an hour!

what a pretty color!

AAAaaawwwww cute!! Aren't those called cinnamons? Such a pretty color!

Their colors are really neat! Cool, thanks for sharing!

Those are some cute little critters.

Beautiful babies for sure...Just wondering how they came to be that color...

They are adorable!!

Wow, such a beautiful colour, they are so cute! I was wondering the same thing as Jo... aren't they cinnamons?

Thanks for sharing!

Maybe they are called cinnamons. I don't know. First time I've ever seen them. I can hardly wait for all of their feathers to grow in.

oh how pretty!! my babies legs are that limiey color.


~nikki

Yeppers I think they are Cinnamon...so very cute

There so cute!....Till you see the pricetag. I think they started at 10000 and have dropped significantly down.

Oh please tell me that's a typo!! $10,000??????? No way! But even with one too many zeros is WAYYYY tooo much for a QP, unless it is one of Tom Whatsisname's mutations. Cinnamons aren't THAT uncommon!

Cute babies.

They're $500.00 or so at Chirping Friends. The natural colours sell for $350.00 I think the blue-ies are four hundred. I cuddled with them again today...and probably will everyday until they are out the door. There is a strong possibility that I might get to foster one or two of them because they have too many Quakers at Chirping Friends right now and to keep up with proper amounts of socializing for the birds sometimes they let me take a few home for awhile. (yes...this bird store does everything right!!! it's so refreshing!)

I wanted a Blue Quaker and that's a good price! The pet store where I bought my quaker were selling Blues for $750 (ouch). I managed to get mine for $200.

I agree it is a cinnamon. I wrote about the ones Mark and I saw at Edna's in my blog on June 17, 2006.

Here's a video: http://s28.photobucket.com/albums/c217/MAS...nt=fed94178.flv

Aren't they cute?

Super cute babies! makes me want one!

Yuck!

I hate the idea of "designer pets". I find it scary and sad. Sorry, I just HAD to say that. Eeeeeeks. What is so wrong about "natural colors"?

Btw, have your heard the primate story about the San Diego zoo? (Allegedly, something, in reality, like: "Ah, let's have a few primates (parents) shot so we can get at the babies... ) Designer primates?

Awsome! I would have loved to see our QP at that age

Yup those are most likely cinnamons and will change color slightly when the adult feathers come in. Baby quakers are so darn cute!!! Well, OK ALL baby birds once they get their feathers in are all cute!

I know the yellow gold ones i dont know if those are cinnamon started at 10000 and dropped like every day cause people lowered the price. They were 10000 when the mutation first came out i know that for sure.

THey are absolutely adorable!!!

Both of my Quakers are natural coloured and I never love them any less for it. That natural colour has proven itself best for survival and should be revered as the true winning colour of a strong survival oriented species. However, colour mutations happen in the wild naturally too. The genes responsible for those mutations are extremely recessive and therefore you almost never see it. In many cases those colour mutations actually prove to be dangerous for the bird with the new colour and the survival rate for these special oddities is low. However, in the safety of our loving homes these birds can live healthy and happy lives. I feel that as long as breeding selectively for colour mutations is controlled, and the health, safety, and general well-being of the animals is the first priority then it's ok. I would not love a colour mutation bird any less than a natural colour either.



I haven't heard this story. It strikes me as odd though because the San Diego Zoo is so concerned with the conservation of species. Do you have a reference to site on this statement?

Hi, yes, I am aware of the fact that color mutations happen in nature too, but what concerns me is when too many birds get bought because of their cute colors and because they "go well with the furniture or wall paper". Breeding for color or whatever property can introduce health problems; there tends to be a reason why some combinations are common in nature and others are not. (Oh, that is what you are saying too. Guess we agree! Except, that I do not see the reason for breeding weak/vulnerable birds just for the sake of their color.)

Another thing is, there are plenty of abandoned and abused pet birds out there, plenty, sadly. (Not just birds of course.)

Yes, I can give you more info about the zoo story, but it's in Dutch.
http://www.netwerk.tv/archief/4868891/830/...ntuinen_VS.html
A group of journalists went to Africa and investigated, partly with a hidden camera. Some zoos apparently are so concerned with the conservation of species that they apparently/allegedly prefer "not to know" that animals get killed so that the zoos can add a few youngsters to their own local gene pool. If this is true, and I have no reason to think otherwise at this point, it is food for thought. Another party that was criticized in this story because of the role it played, is KLM.

It is possible that these US zoos were fooled, just as the Cites officials apparently were fooled... but... if a zoo "orders" so many of this species, so many of that species and so many of that one (and no species for which their current gene pool is already too small, apparently)... Makes ya wonder.

Ange

PS
Myopsitta, didn't mean to attack you... (I know you love'm all.) Sorry if it sounded that way. I also know I sometimes sound like a know-it-all; it's an overactive sense of responsibility that usually causes that.

Ange, I really didn't think you were attacking me. But I admit I was a bit on edge when I replied. I had just finished reading a thread on Starling Talk where a newbi said she was going to feed her Grackle a vegan diet. It's fine for people to do a vegan diet because we can control exactly what vitamins and nutrients we get, but it's not right to force it on an animal, whom God created to eat meats. Grackles are omnivores and eat almost exclusively a soft bodied insect diet in Spring and Summer because their growing babies NEED it. When we raise a bird like that in a rehab situation there is no way we can find the wide variety of soft bodied insects to feed them, so we formulate their diet on a dog or cat food that has chicken or turkey as the first ingredient. Animal protein is crucial to baby Grackle, Starling, and Robin ect. development and to feed them a vegan diet is cruel./soap box

From your reply to my reply it looks like we agree completely. Thank you for your clarifications. One of my own Quakers is a rescue because the previous owner thought he was "cute," but low and behold..there's a living being under those cute feathers and he's not going to sit pretty in a Prada purse. Lets just say I call him Nibbler for a reason. Not everyone needs to have a bird... and on that note not all people should have kids either.

Lucky for those cinnamon Quakers that they are at Chirping Friends. They won't be allowed out the door unless the employees know that they have educated the person on what to expect from that kind of bird, what kind of vet care they need, how loud they will be, what toys they need, what food is best (not seed), proper cage size, ect. I have personally seen the manager refuse to sell to people who were not willing to provide certain things for the bird. They don't let people get away with impulse buys at Chirping Friends.