heatherbug82
Jul 22 2008, 10:58 AM
OK. I have had my two quakers since july fourth. I know that it isn't that long of a time, so they are probably still getting use to everything.
I bought them from a lady who had no clue about anything about these birds. She couldn't tell me how old they were, if their wings were clipped, nothing. She said that they were breeders, or that's what the girl told her that she got them from. ( following along ok? I know it's kinda confusing! ) But she was never able to get them to breed. She also said that they were never handled and the reason she was getting rid of them was because she couldn't even clean their cage because they would always try to attack her!
For the first few weeks, they have been great for me! I can't touch them but I have always been able to put my hand in their cage to give them fresh food and water. They always would run or fly away from my hand. But now, there are times that I go to get their water bowl out to give them fresh water, and they come screetching beaks wide open ready to take a chunk of flesh! Sometimes even when I walk into the room they start this really loud screetching, which to me sounds like a threatening scream.
I really want to be able to work with these birds, Pebbles and Bam Bam I call them, I want to be able to handle them. My kids want to play with them too!! I have another cage so I was thinking about seperating them. Keeping them in seperate cages, next to each other and after a little while see if I'll be able to work with them. I don't know how long they have been together, I don't know if they have ever been handled. But I love these birdies very much and want to play with them, and I want them to have a really great birdie life! Will these two be ok seperated? I am actually leaving on vacation for a week in two days and I have a friend coming to take care of them while I am gone, so should I wait to seperate them till I get back? Please, any advice I would really really appreciate!!
mommy4syd
Jul 22 2008, 11:05 AM
in my NON expert opinion, they are bonded to each other and to them you are a big ole pest messing around them! They love each other and you dont fit in the picture lol
I dont know about others here but I have never tried to retrain a breeder bird to be a pet, maybe someone else will be able to shed some light!!
Dark Angel
Jul 22 2008, 12:00 PM
I think alot depends on how much time you want to invest in your birds. If you want to be able to handle them in my own personal experience and opinion its going to take alot of time and patience.
I personally would separate them but keep them in the same room together. Taking them out one at a time and removing them to a different room to work with them and get them used to you touching them. They are not going to like it at first and expect to be bitten a few times in the process.
The information you received when you purchased them may or may not be accurate. You might want to get your birds dna tested to find out if they are male and female. If it comes out to be that they are male and female its best to keep them separated because they may end up having babies. This could be bad on many levels especially since there is no background information on them that is solid and they may even be brother and sister etc...
If you come to find out that they are either both male or both female its safe to house them together if you just want to look at them and allow them to play with each other instead of with you. It sounds like they were raised this way already and have not had alot of handling in the past. They are not mean birds they are just acting like birds.
I was able to take a breeder sun conure and make him a fantastic companion parrot but it didnt happen over night. It was a long slow process but I found it quite rewarding.
I am sure you will get other advise which is much better than mine.
Good luck
Majj
Jul 23 2008, 11:14 PM
Good advise... It will be traumatic to seperate them (IMO) if they have been together all their life...maybe someone who has done it will come along, seems a sad thing to do to me, if they are not hand reared you will have a hard time trying to tame them and they may never be real companion fids..Birds are not yet to the state of domestication as the likes of dogs and cats they are still a wild critter and even hand raised tame birds retain much of their wild instincts ..
Good Luck with whatever you choose to do.. and WELCOME to the group..
kirsty
Jul 24 2008, 11:09 AM
If the have been aviary or breeding birds then it is kinder to rehome these two in an aviary and let them stay together! i would NEVER attempt to put an ex breeding bird near my child even once tamed down! you dont know their ge or anything about them and if the woman had no knowledge of them then they probably werent given the right food or supplements to become successfull breeding birds! birds need to be in tip top shape and to be happy to breed,no wonder they didnt breed they sound petrified of people being around and having a previous owner with no bird knowledge wont have helped their aggression,only fed it!!
id rehome these poor mites and look for a hand reared baby to enjoy with your children. you will get the bird you want but also have peace of mind that your birds are happy in a new environment with owners who have a lot of knowledge of the breed!!
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