So being new to qp. Whn do we know its time for a beak trim? He has a sand perch and a shell perch and we see him rubbing it often but my husband thinks that Tiki's beak is getting to long and we both know that could cause health problems. So when do you know the beak needs a trim? And if we do need to trim it we will have it done my a professional so no one worry

I don't think healthy beaks normally need trimming. As long as you have some sort of rougher perch for them to rub their beak on and lots of different toys to chew (like wood) they should remain a healthy length. At for months old it shouldn't be that long... but if you're concerned you could always have it checked out by an avian vet... have you taken him for his first 'baby checkup?' yet?

Long beaks don't really cause health problems, but health problems (i.e. liver disease) cause long beaks.

Hope that helps!

Yes he has had his check up and past it with flying colors. All was well. I think my husband is just jumping the gun and that had me wondering. So I figure would be safe to make a post and see what others think or experienced. And I haven't gotten all the toys and stuff yet that I want to get but I will add a wooden perch or chew toy to it. Like I said he has a sand perch and a shell/calsium perch. We see him on the sand perch rubbing his beak and I knew that most will maintain thier own beaks and will never need a trim but like they say never hurts to ask. TY dear for your advice.

I agree with Casey's Mom, There isn't much chance that at 4 months old his beak could be too long. Could it be that your husband is concerned about a little flaking at the tip of the beak. This is a fairly normal ocurance and isn't anything to worry about. But if he's really concerned, a vet check would be your best answer and he can ask questions to the vet himself.

As long as he has plenty of hard things to chew on and things that he can destroy unless he has a medical problem, there isn't much chance of his be ever getting too long I should add that that he could have malocclusion where the upper and lower beak don't line up quite right that could cause the beak to grow at funny angles or one side grow longer than the other, but even that is pretty rare and that would need to definitely be checked out by your vet.