Ok here is a picture of Shylo. I was told he was a Normal Grey, well I beg to differ he doesn't look like any normal grey I have ever seen, I am pretty that shylo is a male, but then again I am not sure either... can some one tell me...





If any one can help me with this I would be greatful..
Like I was told that Shylo was a male, because he has the yellow head but I disagree about the Grey, I think and if am wrong please correct me on this but I think he is a cinnamon pied am I wrong? Please let me know..
Thank you
Cindy

Just a note::: I always put pictures in wrong LOL any advice?

What a beautiful bird. I always wanted a cockitiel -Marbled grey. What a sweetie.I don't know what colour yours is though.

It looks like a Pied Cockatiel to me but I am not sure. I am just making an educated guess LOL. Beautiful birds. I love cockatiels

You need to ask carrie anne. She prob knows.

I have looked on just about every Cockateil website I can find and I can't seem to find one that is marked like him.
But he is the sweetest little thing, he doesn't have a mean feather on him lol
And thank you, I think he absolutely beautiful too..
I have had a grey before and he doesn't look nothing like he did.

Has the bird gone through its first full molt? If it has I don't think its a male because of the bars on the tail...that's a female Females retain the barring on their tails and males lose their barring on the tail after the first molt

I agree with contacting Carrie Anne Or NCVon or even ~BettyK~ even though we don't see Betty on very much, she too raised cockatiel mutations.

Ok thank you for your help..
I don't think it has went thru its first molt, I believe he isn't much older than Mater is which he will be 11weeks on Monday. I'll email NCvon, and see if she can tell for me..
Thanks again.
Cindy

I believe that is a pearl mutation.

I'm pretty sure that it's not pied.

I emailed NCvon tonight and she said it was diffently a pearl and she said she was pretty sure it was a female..
couldn't really tell cuz i couldn't get good enough pictures of shylo..
But I am really happy i found out, now I know for sure...
Thanks everybody..
cindy

Looks like my Conrad who is a pearl pied male.

Denise H

Its a Cinnamon cockatiel i had one once

Mmmmmm I don`t think its a cinnamon my sis had a one didn`t have the blotches looks like a Pearl to me...
If your posting piccys from Photo bucket copy the last addy under the pictures and past into the message ....

heres a link to mutations..

http://www.cockatiel.org/mutations/index.html

It could be a cinnamon pearl...And you'll know for sure in about a month what sex it is because once it goes through its first molt at about 4 months of age usually...you'll know by the banding on its tail or lack there of.

Google cinnamon cockatiels . Or cockatiel mutations and have a look see

AWWWW what a sweetie!!! i really do wish our Izzy would let us hod her like that!!! id love to hunt down whoever abused her and throttle them! very pretty Fid you got and im green with envy

Shylo is a sweetheart, she was hand fed and raised to be a gentle little FID..
She really likes to get up under my chin and just lay there and she likes to lay on my chest, she would lay there all day if I let her, and I taught her to wolf whistle, she doesn't do it all the time, and clumsy this little thing is very clumsy..
But she is s sweetheart..
NCvon said shylo was diffently a pearl and was a female, but couldn't really tell on the female part, but she said that she didn't know if she was a cinnamon pearl or not, but diffently a pearl and until her first molt shylo will be a little girl LOL
If she is a female i want to get a male for her, she a mater don't see eye to eye hardly!
Thanks every one, it was driving me crazy not knowing and I couldn't find any teil that looked like her...

You'll definitely know after the first molt, the pearl mutation I believe is sex-linked, and the females carry that gene. If it's a male, after the first molt the pearling will disappear.

Are you interested in breeding, is that why you want a pair?

Before you buy another cockatiel, consider it very closely. If you're truly interested in breeding, please think about it carefully. If you're going to do it, please make sure you're doing it for the right reasons, and that is to improve the strain and quality of the cockatiel. Too many people have gotten cockatiels and almost every other species of bird thinking that they'd use them for breeding and make a bundle of money off of them, and because cockatiels will reproduce at the blink of an eye, the market has been flooded with cockatiels. There are more cockatiel rescues and sanctuaries than you can believe. Unless you have a very huge flock you will not be making much money after you factor in the time you put in and the equipment you need to properly raise healthy, happy and well socialized babies. You can probably ask almost any hobbiest breeders and they'll tell you that there really isn't money in it, that they do it because of their love for the species.

Know that a bird doesn't need the opposite sex for a companion bird and you don't have to give them a companion to live in the cage with them in order for them to be happy.
You can keep them in separate cages and not have to worry about having a bunch of babies to contend with. Because what you bring into this world you are FOREVER responsible for.

I'm not saying to not raise cockatiels...I'm just asking that you do it for the right reasons. Because mutations are so popular now, its very difficult to find a true normal gray cockatiel. While I think mutations can be very beautiful I've found that they just aren't the same as what the original species was, not only in size but in over all health and mental capacities. Thats not to say that the mutations aren't smart, but I just know that cockatiels species as a whole just isn't the same as it was years ago. Very much like our American budgie that has been bred to death for the mutation factor; they too are about 1/2 the size of what budgies used to be.

I just encourage you to do as much research as possible and gain as much knowledge as you can before you delve into the breeding aspect of this hobby. There are many many breeders here on the forum who I'm sure would be more than happy to share with you their knowledge and concerns about breeding. I've mentioned a few in a prior post and I'm sure there are others as well.

I hope I'm not coming off as preachy because that is definitely not my intent, I just believe that what we are here on this forum for is to help educate others to the good and the bad of every aspect of being a responsible bird owner.

Thank you Andie for the advice, one minute i think i would want to something like that then the next time its like Nnnoooo don't want too, LOL. but I am very thankful for the advice, it keeps me check.. I wouldn't do nothing like that untill I completely research every aspect of it the pros and cons of it..
When Mater came to live with me, I was scared and didn't know squat about feeding a baby, and I knew as a responsible bird owner I had to find some where to go to for help, every body I knew couldn't help me except my sister and she would get on my nerve sometimes.
But I remember how scared i was with Mater and I ask myself constantly do I really want to go thtu that again that feeling of constantly wondering if I am doing right by the baby, and I hate bugging any body for help, but I knew if I didn't get some help It could have costed me my precious little Mater's life and I didn't want that to happen..
Shylo is such a sweet heart and I want her to be happy, and like I said I had thought about it but that is all that it was, it wasn't written in stone! Like you said I need to a lot more research about it first and make sure I have the ample time to do so to take care of them.. The problem with me and any babies, I would end up spending all the time in the world with them and tending to their every need and when it was time to find them homes, it would be so hard for me to let them go, and I think i would be so strict about it as well, but I would most likely end up keeping them then my husband would have a cow over it....
But I completely understand what you are saying about that, and I am very thankful for what ever advice i can get, and I usualy take the advice I get.
Thank you so much

I hope you don't mind, but I edited your post to make the photos easier to see.

From the looks of things, I'm guessing a Pearl Pied. S/he has some grey markings around the head and some yellow markings around the neck area. Which is why I'm saying Pied. Hard to tell if there is any Cinnamon in there with the lighting in the photos.

no thats ok, I keep forgetting how to put photos on the post LOL
Shylo does have the bars and spots on its tail I did see that today,
and I believe shylo is molting. NCvon said that shylo was a pearl but like you carrie, she couldn't tell if it was cinnamon or not, and she seems to think that shylo is a female, my sister said that shylo was a male, but she doesn't get loud, i read some where that males are loud and shylo isn't, she will wolf wistle but not much.
But thank you for fixing my pics, i get so turned around when i try to put them on here LOL

You're welcome

The general rule is that males are more vocal then females. But, as with most rules, there are the exceptions. I once had a female that put some of my male Cockatiels to shame If she wasn't past her first year, a dna'd female, a mother to several clutches, and a pearl, I would of sworn she was male

With pearls, most males will lose most of their pearling. Some lose all the pearls and some will keep what I call 'ghost pearls'. A light colouring of pearl markings on their back/wings, which is beautiful.

Someone mentioned that Pearl was a sex-linked gene, this is true. The males pass the genes down to their daughters (who show it visually) and the mothers pass the gene down to their sons (who carry it as a split). So another way to tell the sex of this bird may be if you know the parents. If the mother wasn't a Pearl, then Shylo has to be female.

Then of course there is DNA sexing, egg laying and surgical sexing as other ways to tell if a Cockatiel is male or female.

Sometimes waiting is more fun though

Wow didn't know that they could be pearl pied. I just thought it was pied or pearled LOL

that is a grey pearl and if it is a boy it will lose its pearl meaning its white if its a female it will stay pearl

Oh, I WANT a cockatiel! I just love that third picture, with her little head all tilted and what I swear is a grin on her face. I don't know diddly about mutations, though. Just wanted to say she's darling!

Shylo is a sweet heart, like i said doesn't have a mean feather on her/him! I am pretty sure s/he has started molting there are more feathers flying than I can clean up! But I never knew none of that about teils,I learn every day about my babies..
Thanks for the info carrie..